New AC Poll

[on_your_nerves]

There are many, many variations possible with the Activity Check, and the mods have decided that we are definitely revising it.

Given the myriad of options, we tried to put together a good proposal AC to put by the playerbase, one based around the comments we got as well as what we'd be capable of keeping up with given all the other things we have to keep up with. Since a monthly AC would involve a mod being occupied with AC two weeks of every month, we decided to see if you guys would be okay with a bimonthly one.

This is the proposal AC we came up with:

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AC would be bimonthly as it is now and follow the same schedule. Players wouldn't have to make AC with every character but would have an increased number they had to make it with if they played more characters. Someone with 1-2 characters has to make AC with only 1 of them. Someone with 3-4 characters has to make AC with 2. Someone with 5-6 characters has to make AC with 3 of them, and the rare few with 7-8 would have to make AC with 4 characters.

Players could make AC with the following options:

One open post

OR

Two threads of at least ten comments made by your character

OR

One open event/meeting that lets others mingle, such as a movie night or training session.

OR

One plot posted with open signups.

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Now, this AC is only going to be put into place if it passes with a majority vote. If it doesn't, please offer up suggestions/comments/criticisms in the comments. We'll keep tweaking it based on player comments until it reaches a happy medium and gets a passing vote by the playerbase. The poll will be open until May 31st at midnight EST.

Poll #10623

This poll is closed.
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 11

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Do you approve of this proposed new AC?

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Yes
3 (27.3%)

No
8 (72.7%)

Comments

[bonnypiperlad]

While I have no issues on most of the AC as it is written, I would like to suggest that perhaps the number of comments required for people who are going with the two thread option be slightly lower than 10 per character. If there are threads with multiple people participating, sometimes it's going to be difficult to get that many comments for each individual. As an example, a fighting thread with more than two or three people often dies out before that particular number of comments is reached, so it couldn't be used for AC, even though people may be actively participating in it for quite some time. And for those of us who write more in our tags, threads can often be shorter because more is going on in the tag. You can have a complete log that doesn't reach that length, but still accomplishes what the players wanted to do.

A thread with ten comments per character may be more reasonable for a comment spam game, but as we are a primarily prosed based game, I would like to suggest making it 5 comments per character at least for now. It's a number that can always be adjusted to suit the flow of the game later on.

[cityship]

This is a good point.

Would the ten be acceptable if we continued to count channelposts though? We planned to accept channelposts towards AC as well because in between logs and channelposts, most people would make the AC we suggested.

[bonnypiperlad]

Hmm. Yes, that could be doable if the channelposts were accepted.

[forging_on]

I agree with all of this, and I don't know that the channelposts would make up for it to me. I don't know that I get 10 comments per thread in my commentspam game, much less in a slow game like this one.

[on_your_nerves]

Point. Though we'd be doing this to try to get it less slow. :|a

I think in this instance since we've had some people express they want a stricter AC and some not liking the post number, we're going to go by the vote, since it's hard to tell what people want in particular.

That said, thank you for posting. Anyone that's unhappy with it as it stands and want another option, like less posts necessary, vote no so then we know to revise it and try again with a revised version. If we have to revise it, we'll go back to these comments to try to figure out what post numbers to do.

Also do you have any suggestions as to what you'd like to see instead? Maybe ten comments for the whole thread or something, so like five for each character instead?

[forging_on]

Well, there's less slow and then there's something we should work up to, and I think that 10 comments might be in that range. 10 for the whole thread would definitely work, though, I think. That's a definite increase in necessary activity without going too over-the-top.

[elementofloyalty]

I think if 10 comments over the course of two months is going to be considered unreasonably high, then we might as well abandon the idea of AC altogether.

[on_your_nerves]

I think the issue here is not that people think it's unreasonably high but that some players might play out a lot of very goal-based threads where they get what they wanted to accomplish done in just five comments per player and want an alternative where they can count multiple short threads if possible, which is fair to ask for. Especially since some people actively participate in group threads and might have an overall thread that's like thirty comments, but they only tagged in 8 times but contributed significantly...

We have to look at it from the perspective of being a plotty game with a lot of group threads, too. I don't think doing that is seeing it as unreasonably high or necessitating abandoning the idea of AC and it's good they brought up their concerns.

[elementofloyalty]

Wouldn't a group thread count under the mingling thread? I read that as being IN one, but it occurs to me you might have meant "posting one".

I'm really concerned about AC being watered down to the point where it's still trivial to make it. (I went on a much longer rant lower down in the post on this.)

That being said, and admittedly tangentially... I'm worried about closed or semi-closed posts being used to meet AC. The more of those we see, the more shut-out everyone who doesn't plan or meet an arbitrary criteria thread in that post is. If we're really trying to get more open posting, then allowing people to just knock out a private two-person post for AC purposes defeats that point.

Uh, it's kind of awkward to be saying this directly considering your detective post is what got me thinking on this, so please don't think I'm trying to single you out.

[on_your_nerves]

No, a group thread wouldn't be, not for everyone. A group thread counts for the person organizing it, IE, you can make AC by providing a post to mingle. So the players bringing this up have a valid concern. Also, even in the case of mingling posts, the post would have to be open to count, so the detective post in my case wouldn't, but movie night, which was open to everyone, would be.

The terms for that are strict enough to encourage more open posts for them to count at all, but don't take into account folks tagging into a mingling thread rather than throwing it, so I can see the concern the players have with this.