Heeey DC Players, need your help...

[so-pregnable.livejournal.com]

So, we have Ish, a new player, apping Indigo, which is awesome. The problem? Brainiac 8's in there and most of the other DC characters know that happens, since a lot of them are post Kon's brainwashing and Indigo dying.

Now there's a potentially awesome plot in having Indigo fool the crew and then Brainiac 8 coming to the surface later, so I'm trying to think of ways around them knowing.

One idea I had was Stacy altering all their memories of the event, which is horrible, but with the good-natured intention of allowing them to get along. Despite her gentle nature, Stacy is willing to engage in unscrupulous actions to make sure they tackle the mission as best as they can. She already alters people's memories with the GLaDoSing and people getting repodded for hiatuses and drops, so they don't worry about them, so it wouldn't be far off. (She'd also see 8 as not really being a threat, because surely Brainiac 8 would see the logic in fighting their enemy, anyway).

That'd give us the double-fold repercussions of Brainiac 8 being able to put the whim-wham on everyone AND a plot wherein they discover Stacy's deceit.

Would folks be down with that? They'd just remember the event differently. Barring that, does anyone else have any ideas?

EDIT: We came up with a much awesomer plan we can't tell all the details about. Suffice to say, everyone will remember events exactly as they happened and we have another way around the B8 thing.

Comments

[psi-flames.livejournal.com]

I'm good with that. I thought Dick was pre, but he can't be if Indigo is dead before Crisis. I have so much trouble keeping up with this stuff.

I think it's probably easier on everybody if Stacy just...doesn't let anybody remember.

[crusades]

Wasn't the outcome of Outsiders that Indigo managed to reassert herself as the dominant personality, but had the Metamorpho offshoot kill her just to be sure? You'll have to verify that, I haven't read it since, but can't we just say, "Yeah, Indigo is back in charge."?

I mean, we've had villains that lots of people know are villains before and it hasn't got in their way. She's going to have to earn her trust from the non-DC members of the crew just like Luthor anybody else, hero or otherwise would. Her reputation back home shouldn't get in the way of any new nefarious plots she may be concocting, else we're in danger of rehashing a story that's already been written.

But, if the player is really set on Stacy mindwiping people, I don't mind so much. It just leaves Bruce in a, "Oh God, he's going to do something stupid again, isn't he?" situation that I'd rather not hash out again if it can be avoided.

[indigoblueberry.livejournal.com]

Naah, what happened was that Indigo temporarily gained control, but Brainiac was gaining control before Shift killed her.

I'm perfectly willing to go one way or the other, I just had it pointed out to me that most characters were before Indigo went all evil roboty. This is just one idea that came up, I didn't even know Stacy could pull that kind of stunt. If it's gonna be a problem, then by all means, we can ignore that.

Indigo herself is taken before the entire mess starts, because if I took her after, she'd be nigh unplayable.

[crusades]

As I say, if it's convenient for the majority I'm happy to run with it. It's just that for my character (and it is just one character too, Wally wouldn't be such a problem, and is taken from before said event anyway) it echoes a major canon issue that I'd rather avoid because it puts the character progression I'm trying to set up on the backfoot.

[indigoblueberry.livejournal.com]

I'm sorry.

[crusades]

There's no need to apologise, I'm not accusing you of anything. When I say I'm happy to compromise if I can't get things my way, I do mean it.

[static-shock68.livejournal.com]

I like this plan; I'm in favor of having Indigo. I think it may be best if the Stacy tweak just has us thinking 'Brainiac 8 was someone else who took control of Indigo so she had to be killed by shift'. That way, we get to keep the timeline more or less intact and not worry about 'crazy go nuts' Indigo.

[so-pregnable.livejournal.com]

Actually, that seems the best possibility. It allows the event to have happened, and folks to remember it, but removes the suspicion of B8 being in there--even if they check her out, the B8 personality can maybe hide itself?

[static-shock68.livejournal.com]

That's what I'm thinking. Logically, the B8 stuff can hide; when they rebuilt Indigo after Graduation Day, it was checked by Roy, STAR Labs, and I'm betting some of the League, too. We have plausible deniability that it can hide itself 100%, just like Kon's mental trigger did.

Plus, it lets us skate a bit more around Stacy mind-raping us all, with it being a more minor alteration to our memories than a major one. More of a shifting than full-blown mindscaping. Which makes it easier for her to avoid being caught. We could even go as far as to say that B8 and Indigo were from the same point in time, which is why B8 tried to use Indigo as the slave-host.

[avenging-bat.livejournal.com]

I'm cool with this.

Then again, Jean-Paul's from WAY BEFORE ANY OF THIS HAPPENED, so I don't think it would matter much to him what happened.